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As of right now there are |
As of right now there are 13 confirmed working devices. |
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* The pcHDTV HD-3000 card |
* The pcHDTV HD-3000 card |
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* The pcHDTV HD-5500 card |
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* The air2pc (1st gen) |
* The air2pc (1st gen) |
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* The air2pc (2nd gen) |
* The air2pc (2nd gen) |
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|style="background:white;"| || pcHDTV HD-3000 |
|style="background:white;"| || pcHDTV HD-3000 || pcHDTV HD-5500 || Air2PC 1st || Air2PC 2nd || Air2PC HD5000 3rd || Fusion HDTV3 Gold-Q || Fusion HDTV3 Gold-T || Fusion HDTV5 Lite || Fusion HDTV5 Gold || Fusion HDTV5 USB Gold || HDTV Wonder || AVerTV HD A180 || Kworld ATSC 110 |
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|style="background:#FFDEAD;"| Frontend || or51132 || bcm3510 || nxt2002 || lgdt3303 || lgdt3302 || lgdt3302 || lgdt3303 || lgdt3303 || lgdt3303 || nxt2004 || nxt2004 || nxt2004 |
|style="background:#FFDEAD;"| Frontend || or51132|| lgdt3303 || bcm3510 || nxt2002 || lgdt3303 || lgdt3302 || lgdt3302 || lgdt3303 || lgdt3303 || lgdt3303 || nxt2004 || nxt2004 || nxt2004 |
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|style="background:#FFDEAD;"| Bridge Interface || cx23882 || flexcop || flexcop || flexcop || cx23882 || cx23882 || bt878 || cx23882 || Cypress FX2LP || cx23882 || saa7135 || saa7135 |
|style="background:#FFDEAD;"| Bridge Interface || cx23882 || cx23883 || flexcop || flexcop || flexcop || cx23882 || cx23882 || bt878 || cx23882 || Cypress FX2LP || cx23882 || saa7135 || saa7135 |
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|style="background:#FFDEAD;"| VSB || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes |
|style="background:#FFDEAD;"| VSB || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes |
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|style="background:#FFDEAD;"| QAM || yes || no || no<sup id="fn_5_back">[[#fn_5|5]]</sup> || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_6_back">[[#fn_6|6]]</sup> || yes || yes |
|style="background:#FFDEAD;"| QAM || yes || yes || no || no<sup id="fn_5_back">[[#fn_5|5]]</sup> || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_6_back">[[#fn_6|6]]</sup> || yes || yes |
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|style="background:#FFDEAD;"| NTSC || yes || no || no || no || yes || yes || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_4_back">[[#fn_4|4]]</sup> || yes || no || yes |
|style="background:#FFDEAD;"| NTSC || yes || yes || no || no || no || yes || yes || yes || yes || no<sup id="fn_4_back">[[#fn_4|4]]</sup> || yes || no || yes |
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|style="background:#FFDEAD;"| Comp/S-video || yes || no || no || no || yes || yes || yes<sup id="fn_1_back">[[#fn_1|1]]</sup> || yes || no<sup id="fn_4_back">[[#fn_4|4]]</sup> || yes || yes || yes |
|style="background:#FFDEAD;"| Comp/S-video || yes || yes || no || no || no || yes || yes || yes<sup id="fn_1_back">[[#fn_1|1]]</sup> || yes || no<sup id="fn_4_back">[[#fn_4|4]]</sup> || yes || yes || yes |
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|style="background:#FFDEAD;"| Analog CC || |
|style="background:#FFDEAD;"| Analog CC || yes<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || yes || no || no || no || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || yes || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || ? || no<sup id="fn_2_back">[[#fn_2|2]]</sup> || ? || ? |
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|style="background:#FFDEAD;"|PID filtering<sup id="fn_3_back">[[#fn_3|3]]</sup> || sw || hw || hw || hw || sw || sw || sw || sw || sw || sw || sw || sw |
|style="background:#FFDEAD;"|PID filtering<sup id="fn_3_back">[[#fn_3|3]]</sup> || sw || sw || hw || hw || hw || sw || sw || sw || sw || sw || sw || sw || sw |
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|style="background:#FFDEAD;"|List Price<sup id=" |
|style="background:#FFDEAD;"|List Price<sup id="fn_7_back">[[#fn_7|7]]</sup> || N/A || $129 || N/A || $40<sup id="fn_8_back">[[#fn_8|8]]</sup> || $119 || N/A || N/A || $89 || $149 || $149 || $119 || $109<sup id="fn_9_back">[[#fn_9|9]]</sup> || ~$70 |
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<cite id="fn_1">[[#fn_1_back|Note 1:]] </cite> Has a working comp/s-video port hidden behind the card-plate.<br> |
<cite id="fn_1">[[#fn_1_back|Note 1:]] </cite> Has a working comp/s-video port hidden behind the card-plate.<br> |
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<cite id="fn_2">[[#fn_2_back|Note 2:]] </cite> |
<cite id="fn_2">[[#fn_2_back|Note 2:]] </cite> The 5500 analog CC works, so the 3000 should too, but I haven't verified the 3000 personally. If you have, please remove this note.<br> |
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<cite id="fn_3">[[#fn_3_back|Note 3:]] </cite> 'hw' = hardware, 'sw' = software. Hardware PID filtering allows the card to discard unwanted packets. This typically amounts to saving <10% of the bitrate of a 8-VSB or QAM-64 broadcast, and >55% of the bitrate of a QAM-256 broadcast.<br> |
<cite id="fn_3">[[#fn_3_back|Note 3:]] </cite> 'hw' = hardware, 'sw' = software. Hardware PID filtering allows the card to discard unwanted packets. This typically amounts to saving <10% of the bitrate of a 8-VSB or QAM-64 broadcast, and >55% of the bitrate of a QAM-256 broadcast.<br> |
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<cite id="fn_4">[[#fn_4_back|Note 4:]] </cite> Hardware should allow it, but the driver has no support yet.<br> |
<cite id="fn_4">[[#fn_4_back|Note 4:]] </cite> Hardware should allow it, but the driver has no support yet.<br> |
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<cite id="fn_5">[[#fn_5_back|Note 5:]] </cite> The demodulator supports QAM-64/256, but the tuner can't handle cable frequencies.<br> |
<cite id="fn_5">[[#fn_5_back|Note 5:]] </cite> The demodulator supports QAM-64/256, but the tuner can't handle cable frequencies.<br> |
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<cite id="fn_6">[[#fn_6_back|Note 6:]] </cite> Some may have had sucess. Recent attempts using currently shipping boards have failed<br> |
<cite id="fn_6">[[#fn_6_back|Note 6:]] </cite> Some may have had sucess. Recent attempts using currently shipping boards have failed<br> |
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<cite id="fn_7">[[#fn_7_back|Note 7:]] </cite> |
<cite id="fn_7">[[#fn_7_back|Note 7:]] </cite> Prices shown in $US, rounded to the nearest $1, as found on the web on 2006-07-17. I didn't bother with the discontinued ones (shown "N/A"), as prices will vary on eBay.<br> |
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<cite id="fn_8">[[#fn_8_back|Note 8:]] </cite> |
<cite id="fn_8">[[#fn_8_back|Note 8:]] </cite> As of 2006-08-24, the product listed on the [http://www.bbti.us/products_air2pc_atsc_pci.htm Broadband Technologies] website. Price shown is their eBay price.<br> |
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<cite id="fn_9">[[#fn_9_back|Note 9:]] </cite> |
<cite id="fn_9">[[#fn_9_back|Note 9:]] </cite> Model shown on web site "MTVHDA180" is the "AVerMedia AVerTVHD™ MCE A180 (white box)"; Price includes typical shipping. |
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<cite id="fn_10">[[#fn_10_back|Note 10:]] </cite> Model shown on web site "MTVHDA180" is the "AVerMedia AVerTVHD™ MCE A180 (white box)"; Price includes typical shipping. |
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==Air2PC== |
==Air2PC== |
Revision as of 16:41, 21 October 2006
As of right now there are 13 confirmed working devices.
- The pcHDTV HD-3000 card
- The pcHDTV HD-5500 card
- The air2pc (1st gen)
- The air2pc (2nd gen)
- The air2pc hd5000 (3rd gen)
- The DViCO FusionHDTV 3 GOLD-Q
- The DViCO FusionHDTV 3 GOLD-T
- The DViCO FusionHDTV 5 GOLD
- The DViCO FusionHDTV 5 LITE
- The DViCO FusionHDTV 5 USB GOLD
- The ATi HDTV Wonder
- The AVerMedia AVerTVHD A180
- The Kworld ATSC110
Here is a feature matrix to help keep track of what card does what:
pcHDTV HD-3000 | pcHDTV HD-5500 | Air2PC 1st | Air2PC 2nd | Air2PC HD5000 3rd | Fusion HDTV3 Gold-Q | Fusion HDTV3 Gold-T | Fusion HDTV5 Lite | Fusion HDTV5 Gold | Fusion HDTV5 USB Gold | HDTV Wonder | AVerTV HD A180 | Kworld ATSC 110 | |
Frontend | or51132 | lgdt3303 | bcm3510 | nxt2002 | lgdt3303 | lgdt3302 | lgdt3302 | lgdt3303 | lgdt3303 | lgdt3303 | nxt2004 | nxt2004 | nxt2004 |
Bridge Interface | cx23882 | cx23883 | flexcop | flexcop | flexcop | cx23882 | cx23882 | bt878 | cx23882 | Cypress FX2LP | cx23882 | saa7135 | saa7135 |
VSB | yes | yes | yes | yes | yes | yes | yes | yes | yes | yes | yes | yes | yes |
QAM | yes | yes | no | no5 | yes | yes | yes | yes | yes | yes | no6 | yes | yes |
NTSC | yes | yes | no | no | no | yes | yes | yes | yes | no4 | yes | no | yes |
Comp/S-video | yes | yes | no | no | no | yes | yes | yes1 | yes | no4 | yes | yes | yes |
Analog CC | yes2 | yes | no | no | no | no2 | no2 | yes | no2 | ? | no2 | ? | ? |
PID filtering3 | sw | sw | hw | hw | hw | sw | sw | sw | sw | sw | sw | sw | sw |
List Price7 | N/A | $129 | N/A | $408 | $119 | N/A | N/A | $89 | $149 | $149 | $119 | $1099 | ~$70 |
Note 1: Has a working comp/s-video port hidden behind the card-plate.
Note 2: The 5500 analog CC works, so the 3000 should too, but I haven't verified the 3000 personally. If you have, please remove this note.
Note 3: 'hw' = hardware, 'sw' = software. Hardware PID filtering allows the card to discard unwanted packets. This typically amounts to saving <10% of the bitrate of a 8-VSB or QAM-64 broadcast, and >55% of the bitrate of a QAM-256 broadcast.
Note 4: Hardware should allow it, but the driver has no support yet.
Note 5: The demodulator supports QAM-64/256, but the tuner can't handle cable frequencies.
Note 6: Some may have had sucess. Recent attempts using currently shipping boards have failed
Note 7: Prices shown in $US, rounded to the nearest $1, as found on the web on 2006-07-17. I didn't bother with the discontinued ones (shown "N/A"), as prices will vary on eBay.
Note 8: As of 2006-08-24, the product listed on the Broadband Technologies website. Price shown is their eBay price.
Note 9: Model shown on web site "MTVHDA180" is the "AVerMedia AVerTVHD™ MCE A180 (white box)"; Price includes typical shipping.
Air2PC
The Air2PC cards usually consume less PCI and memory bandwidth than the other cards because they have a hardware PID filter. The hardware only handles a few streams, which may be limiting if collecting EIT data. The PID filtering is most useful when recording one program in a QAM-256 stream, or when recording low resolution streams. It doesn't save much bandwidth when recording an HDTV stream encoded with 8-VSB, since that set of streams consumes most of the bandwidth anyway.
DViCO
The ATSC frontend of the DViCO cards has been tested with 8-VSB (OTA) and QAM-256 (Cable) in the US. Source code is in video4linux + dvb-kernel CVS and kernel sources 2.6.13 and later for Gold, 2.6.15 and later for Lite.
External Links
- http://www.bbti.us/products_air2pc_atsc_pci.htm Broadband Technologies Company site, Air2PC cards.
- http://www.pchdtv.com pcHDTV Company Site, pcHDTV HD-5500 card.
- http://www.ati.com/products/hdtvwonder/index.html ATI Technology Company site, ATI HDTV Wonder card.
- http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/Products/ DViCO Company site, Fusion HDTV products.
- http://www.aver.com/2005home/wheretobuy/estore/estore_bestseller.shtml AVer TV Company site, AVerTV HD A180 card.
- http://www.kworldcomputer.com/product/digital/001/atsc_110.htm KWorld Company site, KWorld ATSC 110 card.