Hi,
I'm looking for some pointers on VDR coming from a MythTV history. I'm happy with most of the MythTV features but not the stability or the playback image quality, I've been using MythTV as my only TV recorder for some years. I got around the image quality issues by using a PS3 for playback and have monit restarting mythtv-backend or mysql for me when it falls over.
I have a vdr 1.7.8 on Ubuntu system running to try out, a long term vdr user German friend helped me get started with vdr as I found lots of things only really discussed or documented in German, I got past that and learned a little German, I now seem to be able to find most things but not all.... These are my questions and my friend does not know and cannot find me solutions, googling hasn't given me any answers and I've been reading this list for some time too.
I don't have a full featured card, I tried to buy one at first but they don't seem to exist any more, I have a HVR4000 in my test PC, oh and I'm not really very interested in SDTV or analog TV, only HDTV. I am in the UK but have a system looking at 28E, 19E and 13E as well as local DVBT. The PC has an Nvidia 9400gt so VDPAU is possible, I have tried it through MythTV and standalone mplayer but I'm not very impressed with the image quality, I'll stick with the PS3 for now.
Good stuff is mature DVBS2 support, bomb proof stability, sky and freesat epg, sc, vdr-admin, static network protocol, live streaming.
In general I find that if vdr has a feature, it works really well.
My problems, not many but they are stoppers.
No ITVHD, I tried the fixed pid and turn off updates workaround but it didn't work for me, not so important as I suspect red button ITVHD will be history in a couple of months, not like I'd be missing many programmes anyway!
no uPnP Ok have fixed this by running mediatomb pointed at the media directory, performance is great (better than MythTV's built in uPnP) but vdr's naming convention and file splitting makes this a mess. I was pointed to the max file size setting but this is only 2GB as a max or is it 4GB, either way even a 1 hour HDTV show on a low bitrate channel has several files. I get a very very long list of files all called 00001 00002 etc. to navigate through! Ok there's useful switches to make the directories more meaningful but that means a lot of digging through the file structure from the PS3 menu, not ideal.
Timers, I'm used to MythTV's record programme "XXX" on any channel at any time flexibility which follows programme reschedules, new series starting without me knowing, all kinds of good stuff that I now take for granted. vdr seems to set the timer for a channel and a time like an ordinary PVR or VCR with EPG. If there's a plugin that takes this up a level I'm struggling to find it in English or German, please point me in the right direction.
As an example I tried to record 3 minute wonder on CH4HD, it's a filler programme so on at all kinds of times, got the first one then who knows what that was on at the same time from then on.
I really like the simplicity and robustness of vdr compared to the sprawling disjointed MythTV, I'm hoping I've missed a few tricks along the way or the things that cause me hassle are simple enough for me to patch, if pushed in the right direction.
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Andre
-----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: vdr-bounces@linuxtv.org [mailto:vdr-bounces@linuxtv.org] För Andre Newman Skickat: den 14 oktober 2009 16:04 Till: VDR Mailing List Ämne: [vdr] Switching from MythTV to VDR
Hi,
I'm looking for some pointers on VDR coming from a MythTV history. I'm happy with most of the MythTV features but not the stability or the playback image quality, I've been using MythTV as my only TV recorder for some years. I got around the image quality issues by using a PS3 for playback and have monit restarting mythtv-backend or mysql for me when it falls over.
I have a vdr 1.7.8 on Ubuntu system running to try out, a long term vdr user German friend helped me get started with vdr as I found lots of things only really discussed or documented in German, I got past that and learned a little German, I now seem to be able to find most things but not all.... These are my questions and my friend does not know and cannot find me solutions, googling hasn't given me any answers and I've been reading this list for some time too.
I don't have a full featured card, I tried to buy one at first but they don't seem to exist any more, I have a HVR4000 in my test PC, oh and I'm not really very interested in SDTV or analog TV, only HDTV. I am in the UK but have a system looking at 28E, 19E and 13E as well as local DVBT. The PC has an Nvidia 9400gt so VDPAU is possible, I have tried it through MythTV and standalone mplayer but I'm not very impressed with the image quality, I'll stick with the PS3 for now.
Good stuff is mature DVBS2 support, bomb proof stability, sky and freesat epg, sc, vdr-admin, static network protocol, live streaming.
In general I find that if vdr has a feature, it works really well.
My problems, not many but they are stoppers.
No ITVHD, I tried the fixed pid and turn off updates workaround but it didn't work for me, not so important as I suspect red button ITVHD will be history in a couple of months, not like I'd be missing many programmes anyway!
no uPnP Ok have fixed this by running mediatomb pointed at the media directory, performance is great (better than MythTV's built in uPnP) but vdr's naming convention and file splitting makes this a mess. I was pointed to the max file size setting but this is only 2GB as a max or is it 4GB, either way even a 1 hour HDTV show on a low bitrate channel has several files. I get a very very long list of files all called 00001 00002 etc. to navigate through! Ok there's useful switches to make the directories more meaningful but that means a lot of digging through the file structure from the PS3 menu, not ideal.
Timers, I'm used to MythTV's record programme "XXX" on any channel at any time flexibility which follows programme reschedules, new series starting without me knowing, all kinds of good stuff that I now take for granted. vdr seems to set the timer for a channel and a time like an ordinary PVR or VCR with EPG. If there's a plugin that takes this up a level I'm struggling to find it in English or German, please point me in the right direction.
As an example I tried to record 3 minute wonder on CH4HD, it's a filler programme so on at all kinds of times, got the first one then who knows what that was on at the same time from then on.
I really like the simplicity and robustness of vdr compared to the sprawling disjointed MythTV, I'm hoping I've missed a few tricks along the way or the things that cause me hassle are simple enough for me to patch, if pushed in the right direction.
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Andre
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Have you tried the epgsearch plugin? It's an absolute must have. I have tried Myth also but find VDR more "understandable" and easier to maintain. /Magnus H
On 14 Oct 2009, at 15:34, Magnus Hörlin wrote:
Have you tried the epgsearch plugin? It's an absolute must have. I have
I'd heard of it but all the links I found to it were broken, I'd assumed it was dead.
I'll take another look, thanks.
tried Myth also but find VDR more "understandable" and easier to maintain.
I agree and that's after a couple of years with Myth and only a few weeks with vdr!!
Andre
En/na Andre Newman ha escrit:
No ITVHD, I tried the fixed pid and turn off updates workaround but it didn't work for me, not so important as I suspect red button ITVHD will be history in a couple of months, not like I'd be missing many programmes anyway!
I have autoupdates enabled, with one bogus entry for the autoupdated itvhd and one with a different id (nid, tid? I don't remember) that won't be autoupdated. These are the channels.conf lines for itvhd:
The "good" one:
Itv hd;BSkyB:11426:hC23M2O0S0:S28.2E:27500:3401:0;3402=eng:0:0:6969:0:0:0
The "bad" one:
Itv hd;BSkyB:11426:hC23M2O0S0:S28.2E:27500:0:0;3402=eng:0:0:10510:0:0:69
Bye
On 14 Oct 2009, at 16:02, Luca Olivetti wrote:
En/na Andre Newman ha escrit:
No ITVHD, I tried the fixed pid and turn off updates workaround but it didn't work for me, not so important as I suspect red button ITVHD will be history in a couple of months, not like I'd be missing many programmes anyway!
I have autoupdates enabled, with one bogus entry for the autoupdated itvhd and one with a different id (nid, tid? I don't remember) that won't be autoupdated. These are the channels.conf lines for itvhd:
The "good" one:
Itv hd;BSkyB:11426:hC23M2O0S0:S28.2E:27500:3401:0;3402=eng: 0:0:6969:0:0:0
The "bad" one:
Itv hd;BSkyB:11426:hC23M2O0S0:S28.2E:27500:0:0;3402=eng: 0:0:10510:0:0:69
Thanks, I'll give that a try, I found some similar (but not identical) lines at the time which didn't work for me.
Now to rebuild my vdr test box, the disk failed a couple of weeks ago :-( I see 1.7.9 is around now too.
Andre
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Andre Newman vdr@dinkum.org.uk wrote:
I'm looking for some pointers on VDR coming from a MythTV history. I'm happy with most of the MythTV features but not the stability or the playback image quality, I've been using MythTV as my only TV recorder for some years.
Congratulations on finally UPGRADING your tv software!! ;)