Hi,
I'm using a recent 1.7.16 vdr (debian squeeze from e-tobi) and actually I realized, that recordings disappeared from recordings menue.
I'm very happy, that one recording is stil on disk, but others have been removed unwanted. Diskspace is not low at all - so I don't understand the reason to start deleting.
using epgsearch for most recordings, each timer sets the lifetime of the recording to 99 - which I supposed to mean "don't delete ever". Apperantly the vdr has a different understanding of lifetime 99 - so what can I do to disable deleting of recordings?
I never ever want the vdr to delete a recording, which I did not marked manually as deleted.
Any hint is appreciated.
kind regards
Gero
using epgsearch for most recordings, each timer sets the lifetime of the recording to 99 - which I supposed to mean "don't delete ever". Apperantly the vdr has a different understanding of lifetime 99 - so what can I do to disable deleting of recordings?
A lifetime of 99 and a priority of 99 should do what you want.
Hello,
thank you for your attention!
Helmut Auer wrote:
A lifetime of 99 and a priority of 99 should do what you want.
Any idea, why that recording disappeared from OSD (recording list)? I tried a touch /var/lib/video.00/.update but that changed nothing.
I also checked the info-file of the recording and the lifetime is stil 99 - well, priority is not 99 - I thought, priority is only used to choose between conflicting timers and has no relevance once a recording has finished.
Meanwhile I saved that recording on my server, but there remains some rumors about reliability. It's the first time, I'm sure, that a recording disappeared, that I did not marked as deleted - and until I discover an usage-error of myself, I think about going back to an older release.
kind regards
Gero
On 04.01.2011 16:12, Gero wrote:
Hello,
thank you for your attention!
Helmut Auer wrote:
A lifetime of 99 and a priority of 99 should do what you want.
Any idea, why that recording disappeared from OSD (recording list)? I tried a touch /var/lib/video.00/.update but that changed nothing.
I also checked the info-file of the recording and the lifetime is stil 99
- well, priority is not 99 - I thought, priority is only used to choose
between conflicting timers and has no relevance once a recording has finished.
Only the lifetime parameter decides whether a recording can be automatically deleted at all.
Meanwhile I saved that recording on my server, but there remains some rumors about reliability.
Did the recording only diappear from the list VDR displays in its "Recordings" menu? Or was it actually removed from the hard disk?
It's the first time, I'm sure, that a recording disappeared, that I did not marked as deleted - and until I discover an usage-error of myself, I think about going back to an older release.
Are there any log entries regarding this recording?
Klaus
Hello,
thank you for your attention!
Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
Only the lifetime parameter decides whether a recording can be automatically deleted at all.
Thank you for pointing this out.
Meanwhile I saved that recording on my server, but there remains some rumors about reliability.
Did the recording only diappear from the list VDR displays in its "Recordings" menu? Or was it actually removed from the hard disk?
(At least) One recording disappeared from harddisk, and the other disappeared from OSD (recordings menue) only. That's why I'm happy. I like to keep that recording and I have the chance to track my error - if any.
It's the first time, I'm sure, that a recording disappeared, that I did not marked as deleted - and until I discover an usage-error of myself, I think about going back to an older release.
Are there any log entries regarding this recording?
Ok, I gonna dig for the logs.
kind regards
Gero
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Klaus Schmidinger Klaus.Schmidinger@tvdr.de wrote:
Did the recording only diappear from the list VDR displays in its "Recordings" menu? Or was it actually removed from the hard disk?
I've actually experienced this as well. Recordings vanishing from the recordings list for no apparent reason. If I restart VDR, the list is fully recovered. My dedicated recordings harddrive is located in a lan fileserver, and I had always assumed it was something set wrong in Samba somewhere. Then again when I've looked at the files, all permissions were identical for the recordings that were still listed, and the ones that had magically vanished from the list. I also just realized that when I checked the files, I had ssh'ed into the fileserver from the VDR box itself and could see the files just fine so if it were a Samba problem, that wouldn't be possible. Maybe it really is a bug in VDR somewhere afterall?
2011/1/4 VDR User user.vdr@gmail.com:
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Klaus Schmidinger Klaus.Schmidinger@tvdr.de wrote:
Did the recording only diappear from the list VDR displays in its "Recordings" menu? Or was it actually removed from the hard disk?
I've actually experienced this as well. Recordings vanishing from the recordings list for no apparent reason. If I restart VDR, the list is fully recovered. My dedicated recordings harddrive is located in a lan fileserver, and I had always assumed it was something set wrong in Samba somewhere. Then again when I've looked at the files, all permissions were identical for the recordings that were still listed, and the ones that had magically vanished from the list. I also just realized that when I checked the files, I had ssh'ed into the fileserver from the VDR box itself and could see the files just fine so if it were a Samba problem, that wouldn't be possible. Maybe it really is a bug in VDR somewhere afterall?
I think what you are describing is totally unrelated to the problem. Its more likely some timing issue between starting vdr and when the network resource is available. It's kind of sick to share between 2 linux boxes with samba anyway - you might not want that. Check the next time if a touch .update does fix that, and check if the file share was available at the time of last directory scanner run.
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Steffen Barszus steffenbpunkt@googlemail.com wrote:
2011/1/4 VDR User user.vdr@gmail.com:
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Klaus Schmidinger Klaus.Schmidinger@tvdr.de wrote:
Did the recording only diappear from the list VDR displays in its "Recordings" menu? Or was it actually removed from the hard disk?
I've actually experienced this as well. Recordings vanishing from the recordings list for no apparent reason. If I restart VDR, the list is fully recovered. My dedicated recordings harddrive is located in a lan fileserver, and I had always assumed it was something set wrong in Samba somewhere. Then again when I've looked at the files, all permissions were identical for the recordings that were still listed, and the ones that had magically vanished from the list. I also just realized that when I checked the files, I had ssh'ed into the fileserver from the VDR box itself and could see the files just fine so if it were a Samba problem, that wouldn't be possible. Maybe it really is a bug in VDR somewhere afterall?
I think what you are describing is totally unrelated to the problem. Its more likely some timing issue between starting vdr and when the network resource is available. It's kind of sick to share between 2 linux boxes with samba anyway - you might not want that. Check the next time if a touch .update does fix that, and check if the file share was available at the time of last directory scanner run.
There's no question the samba share is available because the recordings that are still in the list can be played just fine. Also, all recordings are playable at any time from my main desktop, which doesn't run VDR, or even Linux for that matter.
Hello,
VDR User wrote:
Klaus.Schmidinger@tvdr.de wrote:
Did the recording only diappear from the list VDR displays in its "Recordings" menu? Or was it actually removed from the hard disk?
I've actually experienced this as well. Recordings vanishing from the recordings list for no apparent reason. If I restart VDR, the list is fully recovered. My dedicated recordings harddrive is located in a lan fileserver, and I had always assumed it was something set wrong in Samba somewhere.
That is a really interesting new aspect, which guided me to some new tests.
I don't use samba, but nfs - and yes, it happens only when I mount a nfs- share. And yes again - the list is fine again after a reboot - cause the nfs- share will not be mounted automatically.
So I took a closer look at the nfs share to find the reason, cause I use nfs- shares for years and never experimented such failures before. I found out, that this behaviour might be related to directories, that don't contain recordings, but other files. Last time, a harddisk crashed, I had no space beside the server recording pool, so I put a backup there.
I tested then to mount the first subdirectory of the servers recording pool and things work fine again - no missing recordings. I guess it was my fault after all.
kind regards
Gero
P.S. My real recording root on the vdr machine is /var/lib/video.00 - but as I'm to lazy to enter that path, I created a link /video that points to /var/lib/video.00 - so when I manually check recordings, I use the path /video/xxx
P.P.S I found more configuration errors at skimming the logfiles. I think, I have to do a closer check of my installation.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:31 AM, Gero geronimo013@gmx.de wrote:
I've actually experienced this as well. Recordings vanishing from the recordings list for no apparent reason. If I restart VDR, the list is fully recovered. My dedicated recordings harddrive is located in a lan fileserver, and I had always assumed it was something set wrong in Samba somewhere.
That is a really interesting new aspect, which guided me to some new tests.
I don't use samba, but nfs - and yes, it happens only when I mount a nfs- share. And yes again - the list is fine again after a reboot - cause the nfs- share will not be mounted automatically.
So I took a closer look at the nfs share to find the reason, cause I use nfs- shares for years and never experimented such failures before. I found out, that this behaviour might be related to directories, that don't contain recordings, but other files.
In my case, my recording harddrive contains only VDR-created recordings.
Last time, a harddisk crashed, I had no space beside the server recording pool, so I put a backup there.
I tested then to mount the first subdirectory of the servers recording pool and things work fine again - no missing recordings. I guess it was my fault after all.
I would expect VDR to just ignore any files/dirs that aren't recordings. If it's crashing due to this, that's bad behavior!
P.S. My real recording root on the vdr machine is /var/lib/video.00 - but as I'm to lazy to enter that path, I created a link /video that points to /var/lib/video.00 - so when I manually check recordings, I use the path /video/xxx
My setup is a bit different: /storage/sata2/recordings on /mnt/lan/recordings type none (rw,bind)
/storage/sata2 is the dedicated harddrive, containing only the "recordings" dir, which is mounted directly to /mnt/lan/recordings using mount --bind as recommended by a sysadmin friend of mine.
P.P.S I found more configuration errors at skimming the logfiles. I think, I have to do a closer check of my installation.
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