Re: [vdr] dvb-s2 transponder can be received but channels are not automatically found

16 May 2010

Hi Klaus,
yes, it's tested by.
I don't know why they don't stick to the standard and use their own user defined value. I was always wondering why vdr didn't find a channel on those transponders, but now I know the reason. Do you know why standalone sat receivers find those channels? Would be interesting if these receivers consider 0x86 or just add all channels no matter what ID.
I will check if unencrypted channels like Luxe HD or ITV1 HD are also using 0x86.
kind regards
Newspaperman

--- Klaus Schmidinger Klaus.Schmidinger@tvdr.de schrieb am So, 16.5.2010:
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Von: Klaus Schmidinger Klaus.Schmidinger@tvdr.de
Betreff: Re: [vdr] dvb-s2 transponder can be received but channels are not automatically found
An: vdr@linuxtv.org
Datum: Sonntag, 16. Mai, 2010 20:31 Uhr
On 16.05.2010 19:13, Newsy Paper
wrote:
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Hi Klaus,
thx very much. with this line it's working fine now
for this transponder at 23.5East.
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But BSkyB at 28.2East is using another id. Service
type 0x86 on their HD channels.
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So I would suggest a new case
+case 0x86: // BSkyB HD television service
Have you actually tested this?
This is an undefined value ("User defined"), so any
provider could
use that for something different.
Besides, AFAIK "Sky1 HD" is encrypted, and there is no CAM
for the
Sky channels :-(
Klaus
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here's a short part of pid 0x11.
Service_id: 3861 (0x0f15)  [=  --> refers
to PMT program_number]
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reserved_1: 63 (0x3f)
     EIT_schedule_flag: 1 (0x01)
     EIT_present_following_flag: 1
(0x01)
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Running_status: 4 (0x04)
[= running]
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Free_CA_mode: 1 (0x01)
[= streams [partially] CA controlled]
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Descriptors_loop_length: 157
(0x009d)
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DVB-DescriptorTag: 73 (0x49)  [=
country_availibility_descriptor]
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descriptor_length: 7 (0x07)
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country_availability_flag: 1 (0x01)
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reserved: 127 (0x7f)
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country_code:  GBR
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country_code:  IRL
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DVB-DescriptorTag: 95 (0x5f)  [=
private_data_specifier_descriptor]
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descriptor_length: 4 (0x04)
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PrivateDataSpecifier: 2 (0x00000002) 
[= BskyB 1]
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DVB-DescriptorTag: 72 (0x48)  [=
service_descriptor]
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descriptor_length: 15 (0x0f)
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service_type: 134 (0x86)  [= User
defined]
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service_provider_name_length: 5 (0x05)
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service_provider_name: "BSkyB"  --
Charset: Latin alphabet
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service_name_length: 7 (0x07)
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Service_name: "Sky1 HD"  -- Charset:
Latin alphabet
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--- Klaus Schmidinger Klaus.Schmidinger@tvdr.de
schrieb am So, 16.5.2010:
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Von: Klaus Schmidinger Klaus.Schmidinger@tvdr.de
Betreff: Re: [vdr] dvb-s2 transponder can be
received but channels are not automatically found
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An: vdr@linuxtv.org
Datum: Sonntag, 16. Mai, 2010 16:24 Uhr
On 15.05.2010 14:50, Newsy Paper
wrote:
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Hi Klaus,
thx for your answer. Only 3 channels are found
Ned3,
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Film1 HD and Sport 1 HD. I also noticed this
problem on some
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dvb-s2 transponders at 28.2 East.
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SECT-Packet: 00000014   PID:
17
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(0x0011), Length: 292 (0x0124)
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Time received: Sat 2010-05-15
14:40:00.207
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0000:  42 f1 21 0c 96 e3 00
00  00 03 ff 51 ae ff 80
19   B.!........Q....
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0010:  48 17 16 0d 43 61 6e
61  6c 64 69 67 69 74 61
61   H...Canaldigitaa
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0020:  6c 07 46 69 6c 6d 31
2e  32 51 b3 ff 80 19 48
17   l.Film1.2Q....H.
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0030:  16 0d 43 61 6e 61 6c
64  69 67 69 74 61 61 6c
07   ..Canaldigitaal.
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0040:  46 69 6c 6d 31 2e 33
51  b8 ff 80 1e 48 1c 16
0d   Film1.3Q....H...
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0050:  43 61 6e 61 6c 64 69
67  69 74 61 61 6c 0c 46
69   Canaldigitaal.Fi
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0060:  6c 6d 31 20 41 63 74
69  6f 6e 51 bd ff 80 18
48   lm1
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ActionQ....H
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0070:  16 16 0d 43 61 6e 61
6c  64 69 67 69 74 61 61
6c   ...Canaldigitaal
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0080:  06 53 70 6f 72 74 31
51  c2 ff 80 1a 48 18 16
0d   .Sport1Q....H...
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0090:  43 61 6e 61 6c 64 69
67  69 74 61 61 6c 08 53
70   Canaldigitaal.Sp
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00a0:  6f 72 74 31 2e 32 51
c7  fc 80 16 48 14 16 0d
43   ort1.2Q....H...C
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00b0:  61 6e 61 6c 64 69 67
69  74 61 61 6c 04 74 73
74   analdigitaal.tst
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00c0:  32 51 d6 ff 80 19 48
17  19 0d 43 61 6e 61 6c
64   2Q....H...Canald
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00d0:  69 67 69 74 61 61 6c
07  4e 45 44 33 20 48 44
51   igitaal.NED3 HDQ
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00e0:  db ff 80 1b 48 19 19
0d  43 41 4e 41 4c 44 49
47   ....H...CANALDIG
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00f0:  49 54 41 41 4c 09 46
69  6c 6d 20 31 20 48 44
51   ITAAL.Film
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1 HDQ
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0100:  e0 ff 80 1c 48 1a 19
0d  43 61 6e 61 6c 64 69
67   ....H...Canaldig
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0110:  69 74 61 61 6c 0a 53
70  6f 72 74 20 31 20 48
44   itaal.Sport 1 HD
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0120:  f1 a3 19
67
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...g
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PID:  17 (0x0011)  [= assigned for:
DVB
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Service Description Table (SDT), Bouquet
Association Table
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(BAT)]
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service_type: 22 (0x16)  [=
advanced
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codec SD digital television service]
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Service_name: "Film1.2"  --
Charset:
...
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Latin alphabet
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service_type: 22 (0x16)  [=
advanced
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codec SD digital television service]
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Service_name: "Film1.3"  --
Charset:
...
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Latin alphabet
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service_type: 22 (0x16)  [=
advanced
...
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codec SD digital television service]
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Service_name: "Film1 Action"
--
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Charset: Latin alphabet
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service_type: 22 (0x16)  [=
advanced
...
...
codec SD digital television service]
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Service_name: "Sport1"  --
Charset:
...
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Latin alphabet
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service_type: 22 (0x16)  [=
advanced
...
...
codec SD digital television service]
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Service_name: "Sport1.2"  --
Charset:
...
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Latin alphabet
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service_type: 22 (0x16)  [=
advanced
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...
codec SD digital television service]
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Service_name: "tst2"  --
Charset:
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Latin alphabet
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service_type: 25 (0x19)  [=
advanced
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codec HD digital television service]
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Service_name: "NED3 HD"  --
Charset:
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Latin alphabet
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service_type: 25 (0x19)  [=
advanced
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codec HD digital television service]
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Service_name: "Film 1 HD"  --
Charset: Latin alphabet
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service_type: 25 (0x19)  [=
advanced
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...
codec HD digital television service]
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Service_name: "Sport 1 HD"  --
Charset: Latin alphabet
Apparently only the three channels that are
automatically
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detected use
service type 0x19. The others use 0x16, which is
not known
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in VDR.
Please try this:
--- sdt.c
2009/12/23
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16:02:47     2.4
+++ sdt.c
2010/05/16
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14:23:21
@@ -55,6 +55,7 @@
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case 0x02: // digital
radio sound service
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case 0x04: // NVOD
reference service
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case 0x05: // NVOD
time-shifted service
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+
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case 0x16: // digital SD television
service
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case 0x19: // digital HD
television service
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{
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char
NameBuf[Utf8BufSize(1024)];
Klaus
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--- Klaus Schmidinger Klaus.Schmidinger@tvdr.de
schrieb am Fr, 14.5.2010:
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Von: Klaus Schmidinger Klaus.Schmidinger@tvdr.de
Betreff: Re: [vdr] dvb-s2 transponder can
be
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received but channels are not automatically found
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An: vdr@linuxtv.org
Datum: Freitag, 14. Mai, 2010 15:50 Uhr
On 07.05.2010 09:45, Newsy Paper
wrote:
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hi!
I noticed a new vdr problem concerning
only
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some of
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those dvb-s2 transponders.
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If I create a new channel in channel
list with
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these
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transponder datas and "add new channels"
is
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activated in vdr
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settings nothing happens either. But when
I set
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manually SID
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manually video + audio pids are found
automatically but not
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the other channels on that transponders
are added
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automatically.
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One of these problem transponders is
12129 V
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27500 5/6
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DVB-S2 on Astra 23.5°East.
I'm afriad I can't receive Astra
23.5°East.
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Are you sure that those transponders
actually
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carry the
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necessary SI data
to automatically find these channels?
Klaus

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